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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 11, 2009 9:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

Great eh? Not sure about that version (ie, origin of the film), but it has been around in various places, though not officially since the DEAD didn't sign off for the commercial use, if I recall the story correctly.

Others know the history? I think that they viewed the filming/organization by the So Cal folks as being something of a rip-off and thus didn't want to sign on...

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jun 12, 2009 2:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

The Grateful Dead, Phil particularly, refused to allow Papa John Phillips, Lou Adler, and the folks behind Monterey Pop to film their set, or use their music in the movie. They distrusted the L.A. people, and felt they were going to be ripped off. They felt that the San Francisco scene was being exploited to line the pockets of the L.A. contingent, (The Mamas & The Papas, The Association, Lou Adler, ect.). Papa John Phillips even went to the extreme of thrusting a contract at them to sign as the Dead took the stage giving them permission to film. The band refused. Phil chides the festival organizers to allow everyone to come in free when the rumor came out that the Beatles were going to attend. Peter Tork of the Monkees interrupted the Dead's set after "Viola Lee Blues" to tell the audience that the Beatles weren't coming "The Beatles aren't here folks!", and not to crash the gates. Phil Lesh then told the promoters and the crowd that if the Beatles WERE coming then The Beatles would WANT everyone to come in.

Peter Tork "...kids are crowding around trying to break down doors and everything thinking The Beatles are here."
Phil: "So why don't you let them in?"
Tork " And uh, that last comment..."
Phil: "Beatles aren't here! Come on in anyway!"
Tork: "There's great things happening anyway.."
Phil: "If The Beatles were here they'd probably want you to come in.."
Pretty funny stuff. Too bad THAT scene didn't end up in the movie! Jerry Garcia's introduction at Monterey Pop of Jefferson Airplane as "Another example of just what the world is coming to!" also didn't make it into the movie.
And just to top things off, the Grateful Dead crew "borrowed" a truck load of amplifiers and microphones from the festival, loaded it up in Mouse's van and drove it back to San Francisco to use putting on free concerts in Golden Gate Park. After they were finished they made an anonymous phone call to the festival people telling them where to find and pick up the "borrowed" gear.

I just played my recording of "Viola Lee Blues" and compared it with the video. I noticed right away that the video of VLB is "only" 9:29 and the actual SBD is 14:07. As the last notes of "Viola Lee" end Peter Tork rushes on the stage on the SBD to make dire announcements about gate crashers and The Beatles. The film version cuts as he grabs the microphone. You can see him clearly at the end of the video grabbing the mic. Judas Priest! It's bad enough to have to be sandwiched in between The Who and the Jimi Hendrix Experience without one of The Monkees interrupting your set as you finish a crushing version of VLB! And never mind that amplifiers have just exploded into pieces during The Who's set just before The Dead took the stage because they got caught up in a turf war between The Who & Hendrix in an incident that Billy Kreutzmann said made him throw up because of nerves! Apparently exploding drum sets were not part of Billy's experiences before Monterey! Ever the peace-makers The Grateful Dead agreed to go on between the warring factions on closing night.
Never mind that they were planning to heist a load of equipment to take back to San Francisco for free concerts in a symbolic F-you.

A good four and a half minutes is missing from the video that was recorded against the band's wishes. This video is a nice document, but the SBD of Viola Lee Blues is amazing! The video version isn't the best sound quality and it is almost five minutes short. The SBD is much better.
Deadheads could probably start a whole new theory about the band's so-called "poor performance" at Monterey as related to how this intrusion on their set may have screwed up what could have been a much better set by the band. The set the band plays at Monterey gets a worse rap than it deserves IMO.
All-in all I think the guys made a great statement in the end at Monterey.

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-06-12 09:21:54

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Jun 12, 2009 3:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

i also read somewhere that after the festival the boyz lol!! ran off with the amps and pa system to play some shows up in frisco!!~ im not sure if thats fact or fiction. someone knows. http://www.archive.org/details/gd67-06-18.sbd.hollister.42.sbeok.shnf great set!

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jun 12, 2009 5:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

Fender had some kind of sponsorship deal with the Monterrey Pops organizers and provided "thousands of dollars worth of amps" to the show. After the show had ended, Rock Scully and a few others drove their van behind the stage and "appropriated" the amps for use at a Summer Solstice festival in SF. All the equipment was returned to CBS/Fender after the festival.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 12, 2009 2:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

My favorite VLB has been and alway's will be the one from Monterey.......it's a f*ckin' monster!

Sure, the rest of the set is pale in comparison, but VLB drop kicks your face IMO.

And for those who (pun intended) don't know......John Entwistle was the Who's Bassist AND Lead Guitarist.
Townsend was the side man.....a lousy one at that. He could have improved by getting Jerry to show him how to play.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

Hey JCE--where's the love for the Brits? First Floyd, now Pete?

I dunno...the acoustic Fooled Again from the Secret Policemans Ball is an outstanding tune with some fine guitar playing I always thought...

EDIT: did mean to say I agree about John Ent--I think that the bass playing on Whos Next is some of the finest ever. That album, I think, is one of the top five "rock" albums ever, in my very biased world of "top rock albums" rankings...always thought it was their best by far...

This post was modified by William Tell on 2009-06-12 14:32:18

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 12, 2009 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

The loves there Tell! Especially the Beatles. :-)

I'm a huge fan of YES as well......Squire along with Phil, Jaco, Jack Bruce, Mingus and a cat by the name of Randy Jo Hobbs having the biggest influence on my own Bass playing.

I dig King Crimson and old Moody Blues too. ;-)

...........oh, and I LOVE MONTY PYTHON & BENNY HILL!! :-D

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 9:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Viola Lee Blues: youtube vid, Monterey pop

Anybody with the love for all things Jack Bruce goes right to the head of the class.